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  • I'm sorry for what happened and its just embarassing also I did not know you were a girl.

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    • That's ok, and a lot of people don't know that :P If you want to get Mana's attention you'll have to post directly on his wall rather than reply to a message left on yours. But judging by the last login dates of both Mana and Edboy3, they don't seem particularly active on the Wiki anymore, so I would contact them on the forums if you have an account there.

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    • The reason why I thought that was mostly because of you name, also shadow ifraid half the time won't even let me make an edit I swear he doesn't even look at it and just clicks undo even if the information I backed up the informantion(which I always do when I edit) he just removes it even if all my grammer is correct and there is nothing wrong with the edit I made. When I edited Left=Starion that was because it said twice that it was a rapid fire type and it said it was a rapid fire type in trivia section which made no since so I removed it from the trivia he still undid the edit.

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    • Sorry if it sounds rude but no it isnt in the right spot and the definition of trivia is information of little importance that is not well know, so even if it was it really doesn't matter since all you need to do is look at it to see that it looks like a proto 01. If it is about the head wouldn't it make more since if it was in the head part. Please explain to me why this is in the right spot and why it is important anyway.

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    • Please don't take this personally, but your grammar and spelling aren't too great, so please don't try to edit articles to change that (I know I've had to go back and fix your mistakes regarding this). If it means a lot to you to get your spelling and grammar in check, use a Spell Checker on what you're intending to add to make sure it's ok. You can find one easily online by searching through Google. In particular, work on capitalization of proper nouns such as writing Cross Fire instead of cross fire or B-Daman instead of B-daman. Please also watch your formatting on the Wiki; make use of the Preview button to see that the page looks neat before publishing; this will also help you to see if you've left out/forgotten something.

      • Shadow's undo revision of WBMA Proto One page was correct; you removed relevant information there so I agree with his undo revision. No where else on the article is it written that Dragold's power dispersal is what lead to Proto Ones being able to talk, so it was wrong of you to have removed that information. His second edit to that page was also relevant as he was correcting your spelling.
      • Shadow's edits to Strike Swallow after yours are also very relevant; your writing was pretty bad here for the reasons I've already stated above. Take a look at the edits Shadow has made and learn from them rather than taking it as a personal attack. He makes good use of linking phrases in one article to other articles on the Wiki.
      • Shadow's undo revision on the Right=Drake page was correct; the information was valid, not anywhere else on the article and in the correct location. I have reverted your edit on this and hope that the nonsense on that page stops.
      • Your revised edits to Left=Starion are correct; the information in the trivia section is repeated and doesn't need to be present there. I will leave Shadow a message about this.

      My point in all of this is not to take sides; I'm here to make sure the Wiki has good information that is presented in a neat manner. I'm also not here to continually mini-mod you and Shadow's behaviour; that's the job of a staff member so please contact Mana or Edboy3 on the forums. I'm talking to you as one member to another, asking for you to take a Wiki-etiquette approach to the whole situation; be friendly, flexible, focused on the task and work together to achieve our goals. Whenever someone, whether it be Shadow or anyone else, reverts an edit you have made, instead of taking it personally, take a look at what they've done and consider why they have done so. Always try and find a way to combine information, rather than take information from one person only. That's the whole point of a Wiki.

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    • It's not my grammer it's my computer doesn't have spell check on it in the first place. I have never really been good at writing in school mostly because I always forget the check behind my self. I never removed anything about the reason the proto 01s started talking, infact I am the one who added that to the wiki, Shadow was the one who removed it not me. I am fine when shadow goes behind and edits to my grammer and spelling are right however, what I find as an attack is when he just completely removes it.

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    • Trivia can mean unimportant facts or details or facts about people, events, etc., that are not well-known, yes. The Head part section is to talk about features of the head part specifically, such as does it have a horn for accuracy or some slot to attach something to it. You don't need to know that it's head piece looks like some other B-Daman's head in order to do well in a competition with it or even use it at all. To say that the head resembles some other B-Daman is not a specific piece of information about the head that people really need to know, it's an interesting but unimportant piece of information and so technically falls under the definition of trivia. For this reason, it belongs in the Trivia section and not in the Head section. Also, it's important in a sense because it's novel information not located anywhere else on the article and because not everyone might have seen the resemblance until someone points it out to them; I didn't see the resemblance till I read that. Keep in mind now that there are now 2 people who take this opinion about the matter; does everyone in the world have a problem or is it just you? Like I said before, please try and consider information people give to you rather than question their edits soley from your point of view.

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    • Can you talk to shadow about removing the part about proto 01s talking, because that was correct.

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    • "It's not my grammer it's my computer doesn't have spell check on it in the first place." Use a spell checker online as I previously suggested. Try reading my reply entirely before jumping on the defensive.

      " I have never really been good at writing in school mostly because I always forget the check behind my self." That's ok! Like I previously said, take this opportunity to learn and grow from it. Now you know it's a good idea to learn to proofread what you write before you publish it.

      "I never removed anything about the reason the proto 01s started talking, infact I am the one who added that to the wiki, Shadow was the one who removed it not me." My mistake, I'll change the article soon to reflect this.

      "...what I find as an attack is when he just completely removes it." My whole point is that you shouldn't take anything personally; nothing should be seen as an attack to you. Just take a look at what he's doing and try to understand why instead of claiming it's a personal attack. Why not leave him a message on his wall and ask why he's making the edits that he is if you really can't understand? Just don't be so harsh on each other.

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    • After further revision of the WBMA Proto One article, I don't feel I'm in the best position to make edits nor speak to either of you regarding the edit. As far as I was aware, Proto Ones started talking when Dragold was destroyed, not when Basara invaded the B-Crystal. I'll take this up with a senior member and get clarification on it. Either way, your edit to the page would have been incorrect; under your edit, Proto Ones starting talking when the crystal was invaded AND Dragold was destroyed, which is obviously not correct. Until I can get clarification on which event is correct, Shadow's edit still stands as the correct one.

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    • Trust me I had made that edit right after I saw the episode where Rudy revealed the reason why the Proto 01s started talking, I think it was episode 24 it might have been 25. Also Proto 01s along with many other b-daman started talking after the invasion if you do not believe me look at episode 13. Rudy had a talking Proto 01 and this was before Dragold had even awakened.

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    • If that's the case then why did you add the Proto Ones starting talking after Dragold was destroyed? Your current stand on it agrees with what Shadow has been trying to show to you this whole time by reverting your edits...

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    • I didn't say that if and if I did then I typed it in by accident. However, I did edit and remove saying that Rudy's Proto 01 was " destroyed, rather disintegrated into sand" and just put down that Rudy's Proto 01 was disintegrated into sand because it makes more sense that way and it was disintegrated so it was still correct.

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    • I just checked the history I never said anything about Dragold being destroyed, I typed in Dragold's power was dispersed not destroyed I think you read it wrong.

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    • Dragold's power is dispersed when he is destroyed... take a look at the end of the last episdode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O76P_gdnPzw


      I'm pretty sure the B-Crystal and Dragold are separate entities; I recall some kind of backstory that Dragold (& possibly the other dragons too) helped bring the B-Crystal to Earth which gave it's power to B-Daman or something of the sort.

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    • Even if they are two separate entities they said themselves that the reason was because of dragold's power being dispersed, now it is possible that some of dragold's power was residing in the B-Crystal and this power was released during the invasion, in fact this theory might have been backed up by due to a fact that a great power escaped the B-Crystal and that it was seaking someone strong. During the invasion a gold light came out of the B-Crystal and flew into a bunch of b-daman all of which started talking later and it is also possible that Dragold's B-animal was trapped inside the b-crystal.

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    • You're jumping to far too many conclusion and honestly I'm getting rather tired of trying to be understanding. I just watched through Episode 13 and it doesn't mention anything about Proto Ones. In fact, what the episode was actually saying was Dragold's spirit was trapped within that B-Crystal, and was released alongside a different power which allows other B-Daman to now speak (although again, no mention of Proto Ones being able to speak and I know they had a strange exception of some sort to all this going on in Episode 13). The power referred to being released is both some power of the B-Crystal which is a separate entity to Dragold AND Dragold's spirit itself being released. I'm getting tired of your poor referencing to episodes which don't talk about much of what you take from it. I saw it happen when you referenced an episode in regards to the Smash Dragold article. I'm starting to see Shadow's frustration with you; you're very black and white and don't research things properly and expect us all to take your word for it and then claim we personally attack you when we try to correct your facts. I don't wish to continue this conversation anymore; I've already referred to 2 other senior members about the matter and I'll see what they have to say to me when they get back to my message and they will be able to help edit the article accordingly.

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    • Nothing about the Proto 01's come in intill episode 14 and nothing about anything of dragold's power being dispursed intill 24 you don't need to see all of it just the end to hear them say it that is it weither you watch it or not to hear them say it is up to you I am done for the night I understand you live in new zealand where it is might might b like 1 pm but I live in america where it is 3 am

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    • also i quit wiki

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    • Well I confirmed with another member that Proto 01s as well as other B-Daman were able to speak after the B-Crystal's energy was released and then all B-Daman got their B-Animals restored when Dragold was defeated. The B-Crystal and Dragold are different entities; the B-Crystal is what Dragold was sealed inside of. But yeah, if you feel that leaving is necessary, then by all means.

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    • Actully, I think over reacted a bit. I am coming back now.

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    • Good to hear :)

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